CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Does anybody here really, does anybody imagine Sarah Palin being elected President of the United States?
ANDREW SULLIVAN, DAILY BEAST: Yes.
MATTHEWS: You can.
SULLIVAN: Yes, because...
[LAUGHTER]
GLORIA BORGER, CNN: Uh oh, here it comes.
SULLIVAN: ...not because of her apparent virtues, not because of Obama's weakness, but because of unforeseen events. I do think that if for example we have a collapse in the markets because of a debt ceiling crisis, if we have a second recession...
MATTHEWS: You're talking Armageddon.
SULLIVAN: If we have another terrorist attack...
BORGER: Sorry.
SULLIVAN: No, I'm just saying we shouldn't rule out things.
MATTHEWS: Okay, okay, let's go...